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Стари Грци : портрет једног народа : [представљање књиге на Трибини Библиотеке САНУ, Београд, 8. новембра 2011. године]

Вуксановић, Миро; Jordović, Ivan; Stefanović, Danijela; Marković, Slobodan G.; Тасић, Никола

(Београд : Српска академија наука и уметности, 2013)

TY  - GEN
AU  - Вуксановић, Миро
AU  - Jordović, Ivan
AU  - Stefanović, Danijela
AU  - Marković, Slobodan G.
AU  - Тасић, Никола
PY  - 2013
UR  - https://dais.sanu.ac.rs/123456789/9634
AB  - Стари Грци : портрет једног народа / Иван Јордовић. – Београд :
Балканолошки институт САНУ : Завод за уџбенике, 2011.
Говорили: академик Никола Тасић,
проф. др Слободан Г. Марковић,
проф. др Данијела Стефановић и
проф. др Иван Јордовић.
У Београду, уторак 8. новембар 2011. у 13.00 часова
PB  - Београд : Српска академија наука и уметности
T2  - Трибина Библиотеке САНУ
T1  - Стари Грци : портрет једног народа : [представљање књиге на Трибини Библиотеке САНУ, Београд, 8. новембра 2011. године]
SP  - 63
EP  - 78
VL  - 1
IS  - 1
UR  - https://hdl.handle.net/21.15107/rcub_dais_9634
ER  - 
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author = "Вуксановић, Миро and Jordović, Ivan and Stefanović, Danijela and Marković, Slobodan G. and Тасић, Никола",
year = "2013",
abstract = "Стари Грци : портрет једног народа / Иван Јордовић. – Београд :
Балканолошки институт САНУ : Завод за уџбенике, 2011.
Говорили: академик Никола Тасић,
проф. др Слободан Г. Марковић,
проф. др Данијела Стефановић и
проф. др Иван Јордовић.
У Београду, уторак 8. новембар 2011. у 13.00 часова",
publisher = "Београд : Српска академија наука и уметности",
journal = "Трибина Библиотеке САНУ",
title = "Стари Грци : портрет једног народа : [представљање књиге на Трибини Библиотеке САНУ, Београд, 8. новембра 2011. године]",
pages = "63-78",
volume = "1",
number = "1",
url = "https://hdl.handle.net/21.15107/rcub_dais_9634"
}
Вуксановић, М., Jordović, I., Stefanović, D., Marković, S. G.,& Тасић, Н.. (2013). Стари Грци : портрет једног народа : [представљање књиге на Трибини Библиотеке САНУ, Београд, 8. новембра 2011. године]. in Трибина Библиотеке САНУ
Београд : Српска академија наука и уметности., 1(1), 63-78.
https://hdl.handle.net/21.15107/rcub_dais_9634
Вуксановић М, Jordović I, Stefanović D, Marković SG, Тасић Н. Стари Грци : портрет једног народа : [представљање књиге на Трибини Библиотеке САНУ, Београд, 8. новембра 2011. године]. in Трибина Библиотеке САНУ. 2013;1(1):63-78.
https://hdl.handle.net/21.15107/rcub_dais_9634 .
Вуксановић, Миро, Jordović, Ivan, Stefanović, Danijela, Marković, Slobodan G., Тасић, Никола, "Стари Грци : портрет једног народа : [представљање књиге на Трибини Библиотеке САНУ, Београд, 8. новембра 2011. године]" in Трибина Библиотеке САНУ, 1, no. 1 (2013):63-78,
https://hdl.handle.net/21.15107/rcub_dais_9634 .

Critias and Democracy

Jordović, Ivan

(Belgrade : Institute for Balkan Studies, Serbian Academy of Sciences and Arts, 2008)

TY  - JOUR
AU  - Jordović, Ivan
PY  - 2008
UR  - https://dais.sanu.ac.rs/123456789/4277
AB  - The majority of Critias' contemporaries and fellow citizens saw the leader of the most brutal regime in Athenian history as a ruthless oligarch, moreover as a tyrant. Many ancient sources share this view. It is somewhat surprising therefore to see the most famous of his victims, the controversial politician Theramenes, denouncing him as a supporter of democracy. This contradiction has given rise to different, even diametrically opposed modern interpretations. It is this variety of interpretations and the importance of this question for understanding the political situation in Athens at the end of the fifth century BC, as well as the rise of tyranny in Thessaly, that has prompted us to take yet another look at this controversial issue.
PB  - Belgrade : Institute for Balkan Studies, Serbian Academy of Sciences and Arts
T2  - Balcanica
T1  - Critias and Democracy
SP  - 33
EP  - 46
IS  - XXXIX
DO  - 10.2298/BALC0839033J
UR  - https://hdl.handle.net/21.15107/rcub_dais_4277
ER  - 
@article{
author = "Jordović, Ivan",
year = "2008",
abstract = "The majority of Critias' contemporaries and fellow citizens saw the leader of the most brutal regime in Athenian history as a ruthless oligarch, moreover as a tyrant. Many ancient sources share this view. It is somewhat surprising therefore to see the most famous of his victims, the controversial politician Theramenes, denouncing him as a supporter of democracy. This contradiction has given rise to different, even diametrically opposed modern interpretations. It is this variety of interpretations and the importance of this question for understanding the political situation in Athens at the end of the fifth century BC, as well as the rise of tyranny in Thessaly, that has prompted us to take yet another look at this controversial issue.",
publisher = "Belgrade : Institute for Balkan Studies, Serbian Academy of Sciences and Arts",
journal = "Balcanica",
title = "Critias and Democracy",
pages = "33-46",
number = "XXXIX",
doi = "10.2298/BALC0839033J",
url = "https://hdl.handle.net/21.15107/rcub_dais_4277"
}
Jordović, I.. (2008). Critias and Democracy. in Balcanica
Belgrade : Institute for Balkan Studies, Serbian Academy of Sciences and Arts.(XXXIX), 33-46.
https://doi.org/10.2298/BALC0839033J
https://hdl.handle.net/21.15107/rcub_dais_4277
Jordović I. Critias and Democracy. in Balcanica. 2008;(XXXIX):33-46.
doi:10.2298/BALC0839033J
https://hdl.handle.net/21.15107/rcub_dais_4277 .
Jordović, Ivan, "Critias and Democracy" in Balcanica, no. XXXIX (2008):33-46,
https://doi.org/10.2298/BALC0839033J .,
https://hdl.handle.net/21.15107/rcub_dais_4277 .

A generation gap in late fifth-century-BC Athens

Jordović, Ivan

(2007)

TY  - JOUR
AU  - Jordović, Ivan
PY  - 2007
UR  - https://dais.sanu.ac.rs/123456789/4255
AB  - The belief that there was a generation gap in Athens in the late fifth century BC is widely accepted by the scholarly community. This paper looks at how the generation gap thesis has come into being and challenges that view, seeking to show that the intergenerational differences became neither a subject of politics nor a political factor, although the young and the old did respond differently to the challenges and innovations that stirred both private and public life in Athens at the time.
T2  - Balcanica
T1  - A generation gap in late fifth-century-BC Athens
SP  - 7
EP  - 27
IS  - 38
DO  - 10.2298/BALC0738007J
UR  - https://hdl.handle.net/21.15107/rcub_dais_4255
ER  - 
@article{
author = "Jordović, Ivan",
year = "2007",
abstract = "The belief that there was a generation gap in Athens in the late fifth century BC is widely accepted by the scholarly community. This paper looks at how the generation gap thesis has come into being and challenges that view, seeking to show that the intergenerational differences became neither a subject of politics nor a political factor, although the young and the old did respond differently to the challenges and innovations that stirred both private and public life in Athens at the time.",
journal = "Balcanica",
title = "A generation gap in late fifth-century-BC Athens",
pages = "7-27",
number = "38",
doi = "10.2298/BALC0738007J",
url = "https://hdl.handle.net/21.15107/rcub_dais_4255"
}
Jordović, I.. (2007). A generation gap in late fifth-century-BC Athens. in Balcanica(38), 7-27.
https://doi.org/10.2298/BALC0738007J
https://hdl.handle.net/21.15107/rcub_dais_4255
Jordović I. A generation gap in late fifth-century-BC Athens. in Balcanica. 2007;(38):7-27.
doi:10.2298/BALC0738007J
https://hdl.handle.net/21.15107/rcub_dais_4255 .
Jordović, Ivan, "A generation gap in late fifth-century-BC Athens" in Balcanica, no. 38 (2007):7-27,
https://doi.org/10.2298/BALC0738007J .,
https://hdl.handle.net/21.15107/rcub_dais_4255 .
1

Did the ancient Greeks know of collective tyranny?

Jordović, Ivan

(2005)

TY  - JOUR
AU  - Jordović, Ivan
PY  - 2005
UR  - https://dais.sanu.ac.rs/123456789/4219
AB  - The significance of the question as to whether the ancient Greeks had the notion of collective tyranny results not only from the fact that the answer may help us understand the evolution of Greek political thought, but also from the fact that the study of the oppressive regimes whose exact nature was open to controversy should not consider them only in terms of oligarchy or tyranny, since contemporary attitudes to such regimes were often powerfully influenced by stereotypes. For that reason this study focuses on the notion of dynasties and shows that it, not identical but very similar to the modern notion of collective tyranny, was known to the Greeks.
T2  - Balcanica
T1  - Did the ancient Greeks know of collective tyranny?
SP  - 17
EP  - 33
IS  - 36
DO  - 10.2298/BALC0536017J
UR  - https://hdl.handle.net/21.15107/rcub_dais_4219
ER  - 
@article{
author = "Jordović, Ivan",
year = "2005",
abstract = "The significance of the question as to whether the ancient Greeks had the notion of collective tyranny results not only from the fact that the answer may help us understand the evolution of Greek political thought, but also from the fact that the study of the oppressive regimes whose exact nature was open to controversy should not consider them only in terms of oligarchy or tyranny, since contemporary attitudes to such regimes were often powerfully influenced by stereotypes. For that reason this study focuses on the notion of dynasties and shows that it, not identical but very similar to the modern notion of collective tyranny, was known to the Greeks.",
journal = "Balcanica",
title = "Did the ancient Greeks know of collective tyranny?",
pages = "17-33",
number = "36",
doi = "10.2298/BALC0536017J",
url = "https://hdl.handle.net/21.15107/rcub_dais_4219"
}
Jordović, I.. (2005). Did the ancient Greeks know of collective tyranny?. in Balcanica(36), 17-33.
https://doi.org/10.2298/BALC0536017J
https://hdl.handle.net/21.15107/rcub_dais_4219
Jordović I. Did the ancient Greeks know of collective tyranny?. in Balcanica. 2005;(36):17-33.
doi:10.2298/BALC0536017J
https://hdl.handle.net/21.15107/rcub_dais_4219 .
Jordović, Ivan, "Did the ancient Greeks know of collective tyranny?" in Balcanica, no. 36 (2005):17-33,
https://doi.org/10.2298/BALC0536017J .,
https://hdl.handle.net/21.15107/rcub_dais_4219 .
2

Право јачег - драма Сисиф и Критија

Jordović, Ivan

(2004)

TY  - JOUR
AU  - Jordović, Ivan
PY  - 2004
UR  - https://dais.sanu.ac.rs/123456789/4193
AB  - The focus of this study is the standpoint of the play Sisyphus and Critias the leader of the thirty towards the right of the stronger. this is a question of constant interest in scientific circles, since its answer can serve as the indicator of the influence this famous theory has had. this interest has been encouraged by the fact that critias’ authorship of the play is questionable. however, the question of the author is not of primary importance for this article, because there are some arguments, among some well known ones, which were not considered and which Show that in this satire, regardless of the author and the purpose of this fragment, the right of the stronger is actually non-existant. the first argument to support this theory is that nomosphysis antithesis is nowhere explicitly mentioned although it is the crucial element of the right of the stronger. in addition there is no claim in the play that the exploitation of the strong by the week or by law accrued. the second argument is that despite the incapability of laws to prevent the secret injustice, they and their importance for the human society are depicted in a positive light. it should also be noted that, unlike callicles and glaucon, laws are created to stop the bad and not the good. the third argument is that the invention of religion is accepted as a positive achievement, which finally enables the overcoming of primeval times and lawlessness. the reflection of this argument is a positive characterization of the individual who invented the fear of gods. the fourth argument, which has not been taken into consideration so far is the way the supporters and opponents of lawlessness are described and marked as κακοί and έσξλοί in the satire only physically strong are considered as strong as opposed to callicles, where they are also spiritually superior. intelectually superior in Sisyphus is the inventor of the fear of gods who is also in favor of law and order. the fact that the strong are described as kako¿ while the supporter of law are recognized as έσξλοί is also of great importance. in other words, this division reflects strong influence of aristocratic set of values by which the έσξλοί are in every way superior to the κακοί. some other indications Show that critias cannot be listed as a advocate of the right of the stronger regardless of our previous conclusion about the play. we need to bear in mind the fact that critias has only recently been linked with the theory of the right of the stronger. in the classical period there had been non attempt to explain his ruthless politics in Athens 404/403 BC by Means of the right of the stronger. what is more, no indication that he supported this theory were found. unlike xenophon and philostratus, it is very likely that Plato and Aristotle were mild to critias Due to his family ties with Plato and his friendship with Socrates. however, all the four of them would have stated that critias was an upholder of the right of the stronger if he had actually been that. that way Socrates would have been completely acquitted of the responsibility for the crimes critias had committed, because of the possible assertion that critias was misled by this theory and succumbed to the negative influence of the sophistic teachings. based on these arguments we can conclude that there is no trace of the right of the stronger in the play Sisyphus and that critias did not support this theory. this satirical play and critias were Most probably under a great influence of aristocratic beliefs, which were often scientifically misinterpreted as the reflection of the right of the stronger.
AB  - Kao jedna izrazito destruktivna teorija, učenje o pravu jačeg još u doba svoga pojavljivanja u poslednjim decenijama 5. veka pre naše ere izazvalo je snažne reakcije. U ovom radu se razmatra pitanje da li se u satirskoj igri Sisif iznosi ova teorija, i da li je Kritija zaista bio pobornik ovog učenja.
T2  - Balcanica
T1  - Право јачег - драма Сисиф и Критија
T1  - The right of the stronger: The play Sisyphus and Critias
SP  - 51
EP  - 70
IS  - 35
DO  - 10.2298/BALC0535051J
UR  - https://hdl.handle.net/21.15107/rcub_dais_4193
ER  - 
@article{
author = "Jordović, Ivan",
year = "2004",
abstract = "The focus of this study is the standpoint of the play Sisyphus and Critias the leader of the thirty towards the right of the stronger. this is a question of constant interest in scientific circles, since its answer can serve as the indicator of the influence this famous theory has had. this interest has been encouraged by the fact that critias’ authorship of the play is questionable. however, the question of the author is not of primary importance for this article, because there are some arguments, among some well known ones, which were not considered and which Show that in this satire, regardless of the author and the purpose of this fragment, the right of the stronger is actually non-existant. the first argument to support this theory is that nomosphysis antithesis is nowhere explicitly mentioned although it is the crucial element of the right of the stronger. in addition there is no claim in the play that the exploitation of the strong by the week or by law accrued. the second argument is that despite the incapability of laws to prevent the secret injustice, they and their importance for the human society are depicted in a positive light. it should also be noted that, unlike callicles and glaucon, laws are created to stop the bad and not the good. the third argument is that the invention of religion is accepted as a positive achievement, which finally enables the overcoming of primeval times and lawlessness. the reflection of this argument is a positive characterization of the individual who invented the fear of gods. the fourth argument, which has not been taken into consideration so far is the way the supporters and opponents of lawlessness are described and marked as κακοί and έσξλοί in the satire only physically strong are considered as strong as opposed to callicles, where they are also spiritually superior. intelectually superior in Sisyphus is the inventor of the fear of gods who is also in favor of law and order. the fact that the strong are described as kako¿ while the supporter of law are recognized as έσξλοί is also of great importance. in other words, this division reflects strong influence of aristocratic set of values by which the έσξλοί are in every way superior to the κακοί. some other indications Show that critias cannot be listed as a advocate of the right of the stronger regardless of our previous conclusion about the play. we need to bear in mind the fact that critias has only recently been linked with the theory of the right of the stronger. in the classical period there had been non attempt to explain his ruthless politics in Athens 404/403 BC by Means of the right of the stronger. what is more, no indication that he supported this theory were found. unlike xenophon and philostratus, it is very likely that Plato and Aristotle were mild to critias Due to his family ties with Plato and his friendship with Socrates. however, all the four of them would have stated that critias was an upholder of the right of the stronger if he had actually been that. that way Socrates would have been completely acquitted of the responsibility for the crimes critias had committed, because of the possible assertion that critias was misled by this theory and succumbed to the negative influence of the sophistic teachings. based on these arguments we can conclude that there is no trace of the right of the stronger in the play Sisyphus and that critias did not support this theory. this satirical play and critias were Most probably under a great influence of aristocratic beliefs, which were often scientifically misinterpreted as the reflection of the right of the stronger., Kao jedna izrazito destruktivna teorija, učenje o pravu jačeg još u doba svoga pojavljivanja u poslednjim decenijama 5. veka pre naše ere izazvalo je snažne reakcije. U ovom radu se razmatra pitanje da li se u satirskoj igri Sisif iznosi ova teorija, i da li je Kritija zaista bio pobornik ovog učenja.",
journal = "Balcanica",
title = "Право јачег - драма Сисиф и Критија, The right of the stronger: The play Sisyphus and Critias",
pages = "51-70",
number = "35",
doi = "10.2298/BALC0535051J",
url = "https://hdl.handle.net/21.15107/rcub_dais_4193"
}
Jordović, I.. (2004). Право јачег - драма Сисиф и Критија. in Balcanica(35), 51-70.
https://doi.org/10.2298/BALC0535051J
https://hdl.handle.net/21.15107/rcub_dais_4193
Jordović I. Право јачег - драма Сисиф и Критија. in Balcanica. 2004;(35):51-70.
doi:10.2298/BALC0535051J
https://hdl.handle.net/21.15107/rcub_dais_4193 .
Jordović, Ivan, "Право јачег - драма Сисиф и Критија" in Balcanica, no. 35 (2004):51-70,
https://doi.org/10.2298/BALC0535051J .,
https://hdl.handle.net/21.15107/rcub_dais_4193 .